In his book "Surfaces of pleasure", the artist and sociologist Roberto Jacoby reviews, through his review of his work as one of the lyricists of the group Virus, a specific moment in Argentina, when rock, a space of youth who rebelled against the social prudishness and trench of protest and denunciation of the bloodiest dictatorship in the country, encounter a phenomenon that they cannot finish decoding, that of an ironic and mordant joy that clashes with their canons of virile cultural insubordination and heteronormative. Trap, Bizarrap, music as enjoyment and the visual arts were part of the dialogue that Jacoby maintained with Télam with the excuse of the publication of this new book, published by Planeta, where he reviews the lyrics created together with the legendary Federico Moura and others. fundamental musicians of the Latin American rock scene. Irony, hedonism, biting criticism, ardent sexuality, catharsis, marginality and refinement, are some of the issues that Virus brings to that counterculture scene of the early 80s in the country, planting its seed along with many other groups -” What one does never comes out of a cabbage, there are always other references,” Jacoby will warn during the interview, to open a space of freedom and, among other issues, visibility to sexual dissidence that is battered even within the counterculture.